February 11. TRUE BELIEVERS

I have a feeling there's something I forgot to tell this class and I can't remember what it was, but maybe it will come to me. John Birch Society. How many of you have heard of it? Nobody. At least a few of you looked it up in the index & came across it. Why did I pull out an obscure group? Because they weren't. They had been one of the largest political groups in Fremont and Newark over the years. Part of their strength in this area was because they were founded by an extremely wealthy family of developers. Some of you may know the family, it's the Reader family, - Bob Reader. Any of you know Nicole Reader? She went to many John Birch Society camps on the Fremont City Council. Probably 15 years ago now, but it was a while back. It is an organization that had meetings all the time at the Hilton. In the last couple of years we haven't heard much from them. Part of the reason, I think, is that their main theme, although there were a number of themes, was that communism was such a dramatic threat that any government intervention in the economy would lead to socialism and it would lead to communism and therefore they constantly opposed any regulation by the government because of their tremendous anti-communist philosophy. Well with the lack of fear of communism I think exists among Americans today I don't think Americans have that panic that they once had about the Marxist international threat. It's difficult to excite people to come down to anti-communist rallies today, at least that's my feeling. So it could be for that reason that we have not seen their names in the press and that you people aren't as familiar with them as a generation of students of 5 - 6 years ago would have been.

Does that mean you don't need to know about it? Well, I don't know. I don't think it hurts to know history. But you hear about them from time to time in your readings. The Birch Society has been around since the 1950's when it was founded by a man named Robert Welsh. He was a candy bar manufacturer. Candies or mints? I don't know. And it was about the tail end of the McCarthy era.

How many of you remember hearing about the McCarthy hearing and what does that represent? 1950's -scare of communism. And since the Americans were frightened of the expansion of communism especially right after China took over in 1949, Joe McCarthy and many politicians took advantage of the American fears to create tremendous witch hunts. Anybody who had left-leaning ideas, anybody who sounded like they supported any human rights were called communists. Including in the south people who wanted to end segregation. They were -- Russian conspiracy the term Pinko -- why do you think they used the term Pinko? Because red is the color of communism? You've known that. They use the color red. Pinko means not quite red, but getting there, Anybody know why red is the color of communism? It's the color of the working class revolution, the blood. The blood of the working class.

Anarchy uses black as it's color. Anybody know why they use black? Why they choose black to be the color of anarchy? Black is literally the absence of color. And being the absence of color it reflects on the absence of government, if you will, anarchy. So there was some logic to choosing black and when you see political rallies throughout the world, you'll often see the red flags of the Marxists, the communists, but you will also see in there the black flag of anarchy and once again how do the Marxists and the anarchists differ? Philosophically? Anarchy believes in what? Anarchy. And what is it? They don't believe in a government. The absence of government. They believe there shouldn't be any government.

So what does communism want as an ultimate as well? Communists also want to achieve anarchy, right? No government. So they sound the same. What's the difference? Everyone is equal as a communist? Well everyone is equal as an anarchist. It's the method of getting there. Communists believe you have to get there in what fashion? Through socialism. Right. You go through the step of socialism. Anarchists hold that you go there immediately without passing go and collecting $200. So they do not follow the dialectic. Another term used in the McCarthy era was fellow travelers. Which basically was applied to people who were liberal. They weren't necessarily members of the communist party, but the attitude was that they traveled along with them and their ideas were no different and they would aid the communist conspiracy to take over the US. So Pinko and fellow traveler are terms that you will see in your reading. They reappear sometimes in the press as well. he accused people - they lost their, I don't know, they were in prison for a while, but he never identified one communist still in government and then when he took on the -

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promote the gay life style and homosexuality and that parents should prevent their children -- and he's asking sponsors to pull away from sponsoring the Teletubbies because they are gay and the way he proves they're gay is they carry a purse, the males, which is their magic box and they have the gay symbol on top which is the triangle which indicates that they are gay and - only one of them does. He's also arguing the color purple because that is a gay color? Which means Barney is also gay? Barney, I believe. We're going to have a whole generation of gay people growing up. That means we won't have any children in the future. Our world will end. It will solve the population problem. Not in this country. We'll just allow more immigrants in, right? You have to have a work force. Right.

So in the long run, Jerry Fallwell is going to wipe himself out, right? I'm sorry. I told you I find the newspapers funny and I find life funny. Some of you may take it seriously and you have to boycott Disney. We talked about that, didn't we? The reason for boycotting Disney, because Donald Duck doesn't wear any pants. You didn't hear that? You miss all the fun when you don't read the newspapers. So maybe we'll get you to read the newspaper just for the fun stuff. Also because of the fact that they allow domestic partner insurance which is part of it, but it wasn't the whole thing.

Did I talk about Adam Sandler? It was Time magazine's columnist, but I did mention that right? How many of you saw Water Boy? And you're all the ones we said were going to hell, right? Just keeping the same light. Is all of this related to our political world? Of course it is. When you're talking about these kinds of protests, the involvement in government. So what happens? In 1955, Robert Welsh created a society to search out the communists. He names it the John Birch Society after an American Christian Missionary and naval captain who he says was the first American killed by the Chinese communists after WW II. It was a very autocratic society based on a blue book that he wrote expressing his philosophy which included, in the blue book, the president of the US at the time, the American war hero, Dwight Eisenhower was a card-carrying communist. Birch Society held that communists were everywhere and so during the 50's, they ran into meetings, broke up the meetings, screamed, yelled, disturbed them and got a reputation for violence.

However, he was smart enough to change the approach, created it into an educational society and opened up the American opinion bookstores. Where you could get books on the illuminati, on the anti-Christ, how the peace symbol was the symbol of the crow and of course on the communists.
But most of all the underlying philosophy was anti democratic. They held and hold that America has been perverted and its Constitution has been perverted with this push because it has moved us towards democracy which is a movement towards communism. They hold that the framers of the Constitution created not a democracy, did not believe in democracy, but instead believed in a federal republic and what they established was a federal republic. Many of you will say well what the hell is the difference? And the response is, by their definition, you elect people to office that may be considered somewhat democratic, but the people you elect are people you elect to do what they want to do. Translation? They know better than you, what's good for the country. They're not to represent you in the sense of listening -- well now, no, they could listen to you. But they are voting. They get elected because they know better what's good for you, because most people don't know what's good for themselves, because they're not involved in the system. When you allow people to get involved, it causes what the framers did. I agree with the Birch Society on that. They were not supportive of a democratic system. They did create a federal republic with a system that you did affect those that were property owners. We have evolved into a more democratic system. And they would like to return to 1787. The Birch Society and the founders of the constitution bringing us back to a period when we would really have a stronger government and a better government, in their mind, if, number one, we elected people who knew better what was going on and wouldn't have the communist threat around us.

In 19 -- I can't remember the year right now -when Robert Welsh died, he was followed in office by somebody called McDonald. And he was aboard the Korean airline 007 which was the Korean airline which was shot down over the Soviet Union because it wandered off course. The Russians were convinced and so were a lot of Americans at this point. It may have been used as a spy place because they shot it down and some 200 people were killed. The head of Birch Society -and
the John Birchers, many of them hold that it was shot down intentionally as a plot between the CIA and KGB, who knows the truth about communist take over. So there is that sense that continues with in that organization.

So once again I spent a lot of time on an organization that's almost defunct. It's not subversive. It
doesn't preach the overthrow of the US like the Nazis. It certainly isn't extreme right in the way we would think of the Nazis or the KKK because it doesn't hold racism as part of its philosophy. It allows women, blacks, Jews to be members. There may be racist members of the organization, but the organization itself does not hold to that. Most of the members of the organization are members of a party that does get a large number of registrations, more than probably it will, called the American Independent Party. It's one of a parties that is on the ballot in California. It exists throughout the country. In 1968, it was formed and it ran George Wallace for president. In 1972 it ran Lester Maddox. Both of whom were segregationists. But the Birchers did not see it as segregation, did not support it. They supported it because the philosophy was to return to basically a federal republic and to prevent any government intervention in the economy. Many people joined the American Independent Party because they didn't realize that out in California the American Independent Party was an ultra conservative political party. They see the word independent in it and they say I'm an independent, I don't belong to any party and they signed up for the party.

A number of years ago the mayor of Hayward -- but the democratic candidate and he wanted to challenge him so he stepped aside, decided not to run for the mayor of Hayward and decided to run as an independent. So he registered with the American Independent Party showing his own stupidity. He did not know, and when he tried to run for the office - he finally pulled out. The press and everybody else attacked him for joining the party of the segregationists, George Wallace and Lester Maddox. So even politicians can screw up without knowing.

What's the American Independent Party all about? If you want to be an independent in California how do you register? Did anybody register to vote as in independent? You all registered political parties? The three of you who registered to vote? You registered, declined to state? To register to vote as an independent in California you register decline to state. That means that you're not registered with any political party. In many states when you register to vote they do give you the opportunity of registering as an independent, that was true in New York. But that does not appear
on the registration card except in the form of "decline to state" and in the form of the American Independent Party, which is not an independent party.

Sometimes, choosing a name can be very important. Politically, that's amazing how just one word can make a difference. Many people joined it for the name of independent. What's Adolf Hitler's real name? I don't know if he would have made it if he would have kept that name. Later, many years after he was born, his actual father married his mother. His father's name was Hitler, so the name was changed to Hitler. So what's in a name? Any questions on the Birch Society?

Any questions on the American Independent Party? Which I didn't put on your chart. Well if I didn't talk much about Jerry Fallwell then I guess I didn't talk much about the Christian coalition and we put them in the chart. Jerry Fallwell, in the late 1970's, created a group called the moral majority. Catch the name, purposely chosen to make Americans believe that the vast majority of the people were moral and they were not the ones in politics. By choosing the name moral majority, he's using an advertising gimmick, a word like to sell a product. Fallwell's mission as a Christian Baptist minister was to bring Christians into politics. He felt that what has happened to American society is that most Christians, which are the majority of the Americans, were staying out of politics because it was dirty and evil. And not doing anything political because of the fear that the evil would rub off. He felt that our political step was at odds, and evil, comparatively, to the people of America. So he advocated and created the group to get Christians into politics. Specifically into the one party that was truly Christian and moral, the republican party. Under his beliefs you could not be a Democrat and moral. I still haven't figured that one out. He had a lot of impact on the 1980 election. Ronald Reagan. And he continued to communicate, as did the moral majority, and they began a power take over of the party, moving the republican party and its philosophy even further to the right, to the ultra conservative position. Their philosophy was return to the Christianity of the Bible, the big catch phrase was family values, which was interesting in that for the first time in American history we had elected a divorced president that the moral majority was supporting. Ronald Reagan has been the only divorced president that has ever been elected to political office.

(I am sorry Karen, but something happened on my steno machine so there is a few minutes of lost notes.)

He asked forgiveness and believe it or not his congregation forgave him and gave him money to fight the case. I never can understand that, but okay fine. That's, you know, we can forgive -- well. A few weeks, actually months, later he was stopped by police with a prostitute in the car. The same one? No, different one. If it was the same prostitute you'd consider it like a marriage. Under the seat of the car were numerous pornographic magazines. At that point it was difficult for people to forgive him. The third incident that hit sadly, again, the Christian community, was an individual named Oral Roberts it was his arrogance that bothered a lot of the Americans. His
university in Oklahoma had a medical school that was losing money and he needed to keep it open. He needed 8 million dollars, and he said that unless people donate 8 million dollars he would stand on the roof and God would take him back. Some were saying, stand there. But the fact was that somebody gave him 8 million dollars. It worked. His arrogance upset many people who had been contributing to Christian organizations. They even stopped giving to that guy who used to be on channel 48 with his cowboy boots and hat. Gene Scott. Anybody ever see him? Not been around for a couple of years. And on top to have Jerry Fallwell decide to take over the PTL administration of James Baker and clean it up. Well nothing passed off as dirt, but the fact was that even though he may not have been immoral, it certainly raised questions about his jumping into an immoral kind of situation and it didn't help any and the money just dried up.

So in 1988, Pat Robertson who founded the Christian broadcasting network decided to run for the republican nomination for president. In so doing, he also organized a group called the Christian coalition, which had the same philosophy as the moral majority now that they were defunct. The
philosophy was to bring Christians into American society. That organization has been extremely influential in the republican party and many of their members have taken over organizing post leadership positions within the republican party. Candidates for the republican nomination constantly
begged for their support. Financially, as well as voting. In fact, in 1996, a republican candidate for the nomination named Steve Forbes, from the magazine, refused to take a position on some of the Christian moral issues in the coalition, including abortion, and he lost dramatically in the -- and so he began to analyze it and from 1996 he has changed his tune. He has been purposely appealing to the Christian wing of the republican party and to the fundamentalists and has been going down and
talking and making strong statements on family values and anti-abortion statements and is one of the forerunners for the republican nomination for the year 2000.

So there is tremendous power in this particular organization in the republican party, the Christian coalition, to the extent that many people feel that that's what has been one of the major problems with the republicans and their attempt to remove Clinton. It's become such a strong moral crusade that they're hurting them. Northern republicans are starting to feel that - because the republicans from northern states tend to be more liberal - have been backing away from supporting the impeachment and you may have seen today's paper, 3 republicans have indicated they will not vote for removal of office under either condition. Either the perjury or the obstruction of justice charge. They are all northern and they're all from heavily mixed democratic states where you don't have the Bible belt influence. And they are predicting they may not get a majority.

The republicans have a tendency to pull their people together but they will lose a number of votes in there. At least on obstruction of justice because most of the members of congress are lawyers and they know that there is no - as trying to convict somebody with perjury when they play word games in court because they do it all the time. That's not perjury. As much is we know, it's lying, it's not a legal definition of -- so when you say that oral sex is not sex, then that's not perjury. It's a God damn lie. You can't remove him for lying. That's not a crime. We wouldn't have any presidents.

Where do you put the coalition? Well, obviously ultra conservative, halfway between right and center. They want to go back to those values that were Biblical or -- any questions? On either the moral majority or the Christian coalition?

Well, the American atheist church. Did we talk about that? It was funny. We talked about that. The American atheist church and Madeline Murray O'hare in class? Green Peace and Sierra Club we talked about? We talked about Green Peace? Where did we put Green Peace? To the left. To the left? Why would we put them to the left? They want to conserve the environment? They want radical change. They want a radical change in the sense that the US conservation has not been very supportive. It's not something that our people have generally supported, all though we obviously are moving towards that direction. And the Sierra Club too, a liberal organization that wants to preserve the environment of the Sierras. The mountains. The hiking trails. The most left-wing almost extreme left conservationist group, did I talk about them? Earth First! Okay well that looks like I covered all of the groups that were on the chart. Did I miss any at all? Sounds like I covered them all. Well then let's deal with the chart for a minute on another perspective and make it clear that not everybody fits on the chart for various reasons. Not all people fit because they're nuts.

We have a woman in Fremont who runs for office every time there's an election. Have any of you ever encountered her or - you have? Where? At a gas station? She seems to get all over the place. I'm always amazed how many people run into her. What did she say to you? She just tells me what her stand is and she can. She pushed around a shopping cart. She's a -- what do you call those people? Bag lady. She's a bag lady, yeah. She's a bum. I don't know. I don't like the word bum. Derelict. Now, it's funny because even I -- I'm not using any clinical terms here, she used to have a house that was left to her, but the city of Fremont walked in and took out 2 or 3 truck loads of garbage and the house was filled with all kinds of - she collects things. Everything, in fact. One point she got busted for stealing twenty newspapers out of a machine. Why she moved there I don't know, and the Mayor of Fremont she called to bail her out. But she finally lost her house and bought a trailer and now she lives on the streets or in the trailer, I'm not sure which but she's been running for about 15 years. She gets about 600 votes all the time. Philosophy? That the way to get rid of drugs in Fremont is you have to get rid of all the apartment dwellers because the drugs are sold and carried out in the apartments and if there are no apartments, there are no drugs - to prevent the drugs coming in. She also has advocated that if she gets elected no house will sell for over a hundred thousand dollars. Lots of luck, huh? Some of her positions are solid except she was running for the Ohlone college school board. She talked about horseback riding trails in the hills because she comes from a family of horseback riders. In fact, one of her great-grandfathers was a cowboy. The other great-grandfather was a movie actor which explains why she runs for political office. I haven't been able to put that one together either. The fact is I can't put her on the chart. Her positions are so -- they're just spacy. I mean, I'm not sure what word I can use. They're weird they're unique. And some are not bad, others are just out in space. How do I choose? Maybe she goes various. I don't know left or right because when we deal with that, we deal with the attitude of whether people are good or bad or evil, whether she wants change new or old, and she does both. Depending on what? Taking houses back to a hundred thousand dollars might be going back in time. I don't know.

On a national level we have people like that, too. One is Lyndon Larouche. Has anybody here heard of Lyndon Larouche? Yeah. This last election in 1996 for some reason his posters didn't appear all over Fremont like they did in '92. He has run for president five times, I believe it is now. He first runs in the Democratic primary to try and get the democratic nomination. When he doesn't get that, he runs his own campaign.

The last two or three times he's run from prison. He was sentenced to a 15-year prison term. He has followers that he used to buy a half hour of TV time on Saturday nights to show his charge and explain his viewpoint. Where that money comes from, well part of it was from donations. Part of it was donations that he went to prison for because he was telling people that if they gave him their credit card number, they would borrow a thousand bucks & pay them back interest. Well nobody got their money back, forget the interest, and so it was considered fraud. His followers believed that he was a political prisoner and is being held. It's interesting. His wife runs for president of Germany, but she's a German citizen. Philosophy? That there is a conspiracy that was trying to destroy America that ties to the Soviets that started with Thomas Jefferson. It's the Jeffersonian philosophy that spread - that it's also spread through the drug trade which is headed by the queen of England. And at this point the queen of England who was a fascist -

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and is Henry Kissinger. Kissinger escaped Germany

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as a Jew and yet she spelled his name with an SS. Lot of the history - when they got the nomination in Illinois for governor & vice governor & nobody knew who they were. They wound up on the ballot and the democrats decided to vote for republicans at that point. They tried to run for the non -- the democratic offices without - people began to identify this group of people but from all over this country he brought in people from the Birch Society a number of years ago to create a petition that people did sign to create concentration camps for people with the HIV virus. It didn't say that, it was too -- and it went on the ballot. They talked about quarantine. They do that in Cuba. And they're placed in camps. My first encounter - oh, by the way the publicity got enough out there to make them - what this was all about and what it meant and most of all, people, if you pass something like this, - most people who had HIV were not about to be tested or tell people and it was a much more dangerous kind of situation.

My first encounter with the Larouches, I was coming out of Gemco. People remember it? A few years from now nobody will hear of it. It still pisses me off it went out of business. I liked Gemco. Then they put this stupid Target in there. That stuff was ugly and cheap, Gemco had good prices on good quality goods. I walk out of this store, it's a Sunday, I'm dressed in jeans and T-shirt. This woman comes over to me and said will you sign this petition to end AIDS. And I said no. It was just something. I hate people who won't leave you alone and they follow you and they grab you, you know. I just said no. I was nice, but you know, I've got a New York personality and when they start doing that my whole NY temper explodes in a NY way. I think I mentioned before New Yorkers don't punch. We have vicious mouths. We bite. Okay? We know how to use the mouth. She follows me. She grabs my shirt and she says, aren't you afraid of AIDS? And I said no. She said why. Because I'm not F-ing around. I used the word. And she got real -- upset because my wife was there and my kids. You ought to have your mouth washed out with soap. And I said well maybe if you washed your ass hole out with soap you wouldn't be afraid of AIDS. Isn't that New York? Now come on that's New York. Californians would have just punched you. NY is -- So, what can I say? So that was my encounter with the Larouche people.

Then there are groups in a sense, politically, that are difficult to classify on the chart. One of those groups is the libertarian party. I don't think it honestly does fit on the chart because its views are both good and right and good and left. Libertarians hold that the government that governs best, that's the old Jeffersonian. They have their own chart. They want absolutely minimal government. In fact, the libertarian party is probably the closest to an anarchist party that we have in the US and to be candid with you, I think they're probably the most consistent with the political parties. From my perspective. No, I'm not a libertarian. I belong to the Kirshner party. The libertarian chart does explain their view. Like a diamond. Now you remember that we sit on the right. There's a tendency to believe people are evil and they want strong control, but what they want control over is this, they want control over people, of government control, of the social tests of people. They want dictatorship over the social life. However, they want freedom of the economic to get the good people who will be able to compete freely to improve the economy.

So there is some truth to what those groups on left tend to believe in -- I'm sorry, right. Continue to believe in economic freedom of social control. By the way, every time I hear republicans tell me that they're opposed to government intervention and control, I say crap. That is the biggest crap in the world. The republicans are just as much in support of government control as the democrats, and this is why I think the libertarians are more honest. How do the republicans want government control? Right there. Social. They don't want abortion. They want government to control abortion, to prevent abortion. They want the government to outlaw home sex, they want to outlaw prostitution outlaw drugs, right down the line. Gambling, okay we can go on, and these elements that republicans are willing to control as far as morality is concerned, their choice of morality, pornography, all is controlled by the republican party.

So they brain washed people in this country to believe that they don't want government control, but they don't want it in the economic system. The left wants control over the economic system. They believe that people are not allowed to participate, are perverted. They lose their freedom, whatever. And they want freedom social. So this is a government dictatorship or economics on the left, and I agree that the libertarians are probably accurate here. They say that these two come together at the base of the diamond for total control. The base of the diamond is total control over economics and over social. Total government dictatorship. Okay so what would the top of the diamond be? Freedom. And they call that libertarian? So the top is the libertarian, which want no control or minimum over social economics. Translation? The libertarian party does hold that there should not be government control over your personal choice, be it prostitution or pornography or your economic choice. The business and how you conduct your business. They do believe that there should be some security and there should be some prevention against fraud. As far as the military is concerned they believe that we must have a military, but minimal at home technologically to protect ourselves. We do not need American bases anywhere in the world, that we should stay at home and save and cut our funding and therefore cut taxes by 2/3 generally. They are also opposed to the public control of most things.

I like the libertarian philosophy, however, they're opposed to public education. They would eliminate public education. My own personal bias is I like my job. I also happen to believe in public education, but in the long run, I think they have a lot to say for total freedom despite the fact that at this point some of their philosophy frightens me. I'm sorry I just don't trust macho cops. I'm talking about the company, not the fact of the people.

Q Isn't that a sense of how the Pinkertons work?
A Yeah. Robo Cop. I want a public police force.

Any questions on libertarian? Well, then, there's the other element of the chart that people don't fit on. We refer to these individuals as true believers. I need to make a point here. I'm going to distinguish between true believers and people with a true faith. Many of you have a true faith. I hope that you are true believers. The artificial separation.

In 1950, a man named Erik Hoffa, not Jimmy Hoffa. He's buried with the fishes. Head of the teamsters. His son is now head of teamsters. However, wrote a book called The True Believers. He wanted to study why people in the 1930's, when he was a young man, could switch from one end of that chart to the other. It makes sense if you believe in people or you believe people are good, how can you switch to the other side? Logically - and yet people were moving and one week would be a communist and one week be a fascist. How does it happen? He starts to think about this. He came up with an answer. True believers. What he said was, all the time, but especially in times of the depression, like they were living in, there are people who lack self-worth. They're the kind of people you can say, you're ugly; you're terrible; you're a shit, and they go right on. I don't know if you've encountered people like that.

I went one time to a church in the south. The minister sat up there and told them how evil they were and there was no way out of it and then he asked for money and everybody went Hallelujah. However, what does a person who has no self worth feel, they're worthless too? What do you do with a person with an inferiority complex? If you're a loser and you feel yourself a loser? You can commit suicide. That's one choice. If you haven't got the guts to commit suicide you go kill somebody and get yourself committed, suicide. Or you drop out, cop out, pop out. You take drugs, drink alcohol. And so you're high all the time, then you know how good you are. You sober up. You realize you're a loser so you stop. So you get drunk all the time. But that's not always the answer for many people. Some people get an identity. It gives them a purpose for being.

What organization? Well it can be any organization, but there are certain groups especially object extremes but there are groups that appeal to people who feel themselves to be losers. Who lack self-worth. They go out and they literally recruit those who were lacking self-worth and we often refer to them as cults. In fact, some of these we know when they finally get attacked. The people revert to their lack of self worth by committing suicide en mass. The first one that really hit the American press in 1978, the year most of you were born, was the People's Temple in Jonestown when 900 people committed suicide with poison fruit punch. Yeah. Kool-aid. And then of course there have been some recent ones: Waco, David Koresh, and Heaven's Gate was one. All those people that were waiting for the space ship. They all had Nike tennis shoes. And then he used apple sauce with the poison in it. Sort of a scary process but these are what we call true believer groups and there are many of them out there that haven't committed suicide yet, some of them are powerful because when you have an organization of people who need an identity, you have free labor and when you have free labor you have a lot of money coming in. And many of these groups raise their funds by sending out their laborers to do inventories to -- they sell things on the streets. I mean you've encountered them all over the place from time to time.

I guess one of the ones that used to be at the airport, you get off a plane and years ago these people would come up to you and stick a rose in your hand. And then they'd ask you for money. I actually had that happen at the aquarium in San Francisco. And then she asked me for money. That pissed me off. There goes my ego. What kind of woman are you? Anybody know what group that was? American flags and rose tell you it was for their --. Years ago they used to dress in saffron robes, shaved heads and will go around the streets singing I think then all of a sudden they decided they became more of a true believer group. They start dressing like real people and confronting you all the time. Hari Krishnas. But you can tell the difference between true believers and those of the true faith. The true believers really lie to you. They don't tell you who they are. They deceive you. Those with the true faith have no problem in telling you who they are because they know that if you're not interested you don't want to participate -- it's your problem. You're going to go to hell that's you're problem. They're just aiding you if you want that help. Okay? And so you can distinguish them when they come to your town. They have a true faith.

I know a number of years ago my son yelled, "Dad, Dad, the Mormons are coming." Guys down the street with white shirts on, ties and their bikes and -- but you know when they come to the door they tell you who they are. They're from the Latter-day Saints. They leave you alone, but if not it's your problem. However, a few months after that, he yells, "Dad there's some strange people down the street. They're wearing ties and jackets and suits and they're all different colors and they got
-- the Mormons are one color. This group had different colors." And, I said okay those are the Jehovah's Witnesses. Again, they're not true believers. They have a true faith, but they're going to come to the door and they're going to try and give you the Watchtower -- and ask you for 10 cents. Don't worry because I was leaving. I come back, he's got a pile, a stack. I said, "What happened?" He said, :They were so nice." And he said the first thing they gave me was how to deal with my father. But they didn't stop coming after that. Once you took the pamphlets they're going to come to your town, but that was quite different than this kid who comes to my door. He's selling these Garfield toys. And I look at him and he says, well we're raising money for our church. He's got these glassy eyes and it's not drugs, I can see this guy is somewhere in space somewhere and I look and I said well what's the church? Well it's a Christian church and I said what kind? A Christian church. And I am -- well, where is the church and he said downtown. I said downtown where? He said downtown in the city and I said what city and he said the city and I said oh, is it the Unification Church he said yeah, how did you know? That's the Moonies. That every couple of years marry 10,000 people in this place in Mendocino county where they feed them nothing but vegetarian food and then indoctrinate them. They're a group that brain washes people. But they're very big and powerful, they got a lot of the money. They own churches, buildings, printing companies, hotels, and contributed to political parties to maintain their base. But certainly does appeal to them - is scientology. I think you have to be almost a true believer to take their test. Three thousand questions on why you hate yourself. And when you finally get through the course it's thousands of dollars. It helps people, it's helped a lot of people. How else would John Travolta have been able to make Phenomena? We'll see you next week.